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War on Iraq

Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?

By Jan Frel, AlterNet. Posted July 10, 2006.


A Nuremberg chief prosecutor says there is a case for trying Bush for the 'supreme crime against humanity, an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.'
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The extent to which American exceptionalism is embedded in the national psyche is awesome to behold.

While the United States is a country like any other, its citizens no more special than any others on the planet, Americans still react with surprise at the suggestion that their country could be held responsible for something as heinous as a war crime.

From the massacre of more than 100,000 people in the Philippines to the first nuclear attack ever at Hiroshima to the unprovoked invasion of Baghdad, U.S.-sponsored violence doesn't feel as wrong and worthy of prosecution in internationally sanctioned criminal courts as the gory, bload-soaked atrocities of Congo, Darfur, Rwanda, and most certainly not the Nazis -- most certainly not. Howard Zinn recently described this as our "inability to think outside the boundaries of nationalism. We are penned in by the arrogant idea that this country is the center of the universe, exceptionally virtuous, admirable, superior."

Most Americans firmly believe there is nothing the United States or its political leadership could possibly do that could equate to the crimes of Hitler's Third Reich. The Nazis are our "gold standard of evil," as author John Dolan once put it.

But the truth is that we can, and we have -- most recently and significantly in Iraq. Perhaps no person on the planet is better equipped to identify and describe our crimes in Iraq than Benjamin Ferencz, a former chief prosecutor of the Nuremberg Trials who successfully convicted 22 Nazi officers for their work in orchestrating death squads that killed more than one million people in the famous Einsatzgruppen Case. Ferencz, now 87, has gone on to become a founding father of the basis behind international law regarding war crimes, and his essays and legal work drawing from the Nuremberg trials and later the commission that established the International Criminal Court remain a lasting influence in that realm.

Ferencz's biggest contribution to the war crimes field is his assertion that an unprovoked or "aggressive" war is the highest crime against mankind. It was the decision to invade Iraq in 2003 that made possible the horrors of Abu Ghraib, the destruction of Fallouja and Ramadi, the tens of thousands of Iraqi deaths, civilian massacres like Haditha, and on and on. Ferencz believes that a "prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity, that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation."

Interviewed from his home in New York, Ferencz laid out a simple summary of the case:

"The United Nations charter has a provision which was agreed to by the United States formulated by the United States in fact, after World War II. Its says that from now on, no nation can use armed force without the permission of the U.N. Security Council. They can use force in connection with self-defense, but a country can't use force in anticipation of self-defense. Regarding Iraq, the last Security Council resolution essentially said, 'Look, send the weapons inspectors out to Iraq, have them come back and tell us what they've found -- then we'll figure out what we're going to do. The U.S. was impatient, and decided to invade Iraq -- which was all pre-arranged of course. So, the United States went to war, in violation of the charter."

It's that simple. Ferencz called the invasion a "clear breach of law," and dismissed the Bush administration's legal defense that previous U.N. Security Council resolutions dating back to the first Gulf War justified an invasion in 2003. Ferencz notes that the first Bush president believed that the United States didn't have a U.N. mandate to go into Iraq and take out Saddam Hussein; that authorization was simply to eject Hussein from Kuwait. Ferencz asked, "So how do we get authorization more than a decade later to finish the job? The arguments made to defend this are not persuasive."

Writing for the United Kingdom's Guardian, shortly before the 2003 invasion, international law expert Mark Littman echoed Ferencz: "The threatened war against Iraq will be a breach of the United Nations Charter and hence of international law unless it is authorized by a new and unambiguous resolution of the Security Council. The Charter is clear. No such war is permitted unless it is in self-defense or authorized by the Security Council."

Challenges to the legality of this war can also be found at the ground level. First Lt. Ehren Watada, the first U.S. commissioned officer to refuse to serve in Iraq, cites the rules of the U.N. Charter as a principle reason for his dissent.


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Together with Cheney, Rumsfeld & Addington
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 10, 2006 12:41 AM   
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George W. Bush in the dock facing a charge of war crimes? That's well beyond the scope of possibility … or is it?

Not while he's deemed a head of state I think?
'Heads of State and senior government officials are immune from prosecution, until, that is, they have left office. This process has become known as "the principle of universal jurisdiction". ' Stephen Green, Counterpunch:
"When War Criminals Retire"

But thereafter, it's all-systems-go.

He won't be alone, I think:
"Senior leadership in the military has long opposed Bush’s war-paradigm policies. From the start the Judges Advocate General vehemently resisted the abrogation of legal standards. Then Powell, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke for much of the military in his opposition. But they were ignored. Last year, the general counsel of the Navy, Alberto Mora, and Matthew Waxman, deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainee policy, strongly argued for adherence to Common Article 3. But Cheney, Rumsfeld and Addington suppressed them."
Sidney Blumenthal, Salon
"The Imperial Presidency Crushed"

(for direct ref links, see Jan's other article, on Lt Watada.)

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Seems unlikely...
Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on Jul 10, 2006 12:33 AM   
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The article lays it out plainly. Nobody in the world has the brains or the balls to take America on, not even the Americans themselves. Either they don't see the problem, or they don't want to deal with it, for any one of a million reasons. In other words, as it stands now, justice simply won't be had and as in many cases these days simply shouldn't be expected.

Of course, just because we can't expect justice doesn't mean that we shouldn't want it, or fight for it. Should anyone powerful enough, smart enough, and ballsy enough muster up the courage and the legal funding necessary to call the American government on it's shit, I'd reckon they'd be worth following and supporting. The case of a lifetime, decades of deliberation. The 'long war'. I could use some courthouse excitement, it's been a while since the days of O.J. Simpson and Monica Lewinsky. You know I'd be watching.

It's just too bad that anyone who would be willing to call the American government out would probably wind up at the bottom of a river within a week of issuing their challenge...

» don't be ridiculous Posted by: mokidugway
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» RE: Seems unlikely... Posted by: amacd
» RE: Seems unlikely... Posted by: AlienSlave
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» Looks like I went and made someone mad. Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle
» RE: Seems unlikely... Posted by: Earthling
it's only a matter of time
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 10, 2006 1:00 AM   
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"the international community is not sufficiently organized to prosecute such a case. … There is no court at the moment that is competent to try that crime." (Ferencz)

It would be a mistake to underestimate the anger, the determination, and the requirement for justice, of a parent who's child's life has been destroyed (at Guantanamo) at the whim of conscienceless tyrants and fools.

When the boy w steps down, the men will be waiting for him.

» RE: it's only a matter of time Posted by: jonwilson
» RE: it's only a matter of time Posted by: cottontail
» RE: it's only a matter of time Posted by: aonghus36
» RE: Imagine the possibilities Posted by: enzolima
not for the "war" as such, but for specific violations
Posted by: aurora2484 on Jul 10, 2006 1:51 AM   
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For "going to war" ... don't know .. too big to take on?

But for specific violations, yes.

Those pesky war crimes
Posted by: HeroesAll on Jul 10, 2006 2:20 AM   
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A couple of years ago I read Geoffrey Robertson's Crimes Against Humanity. An interesting read, although damn hard to get through, Robertson being an exceptionally gifted thinker, barrister, and human rights activist. I didn't agree with all of his points, but they made me think, and change some of my ideas.

One of the points that he made throughout the book was the difficulty of working towards a truly international system of justice. Logically, of course, there's no difference between a country and a state within a country, so if people support the idea of impartial law within a state, and also within a country composed of states, then logically they should also support justice within a world composed of countries.

And, just as federal laws tend to be more 'important' or less local, so international laws should be more 'important' or bigger or less local still. Hence the war crimes and crimes against humanity.

You'd also think that the country that portrays itself as being the bastion of fairness, justice, equality, and apple pie would be completely in favour of international law. After all, law is devised (in general) for the protection of the little guy against the big guys.

And therein lies the problem. America is undoubtedly the biggest guy, and doesn't want to be held to account by any pesky laws. So they make up all sorts of justifications about American exceptionalism to cover the fact that they don't want to be held to the same standards as the rest of the world. And the people believe it, because (a) they've been told all their lives that they're special, and (b) because their media are generally filtered and censored and twisted. So they're living in a bubble.

Robertson's point was that the international law system could come in fits and starts. But a recent book by Gwynne Dyer, called Future Tense, pointed out that if the US doesn't stop acting this way soon, international law will be dead in the water, and we'll go back to the days of highly-armed barbarism.

» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: mokidugway
» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: John Rice
» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: mkeeling@jam.rr.com
» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: Pickles78
» RE: Those pesky war crimes Posted by: John Rice
In a Word:Yes
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jul 10, 2006 2:32 AM   
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GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz Are All Guilty. BTW- the Congress that has sat by doing nothing to stop this bunch owes Richard Nixon an apology.

» RE: In a Word:Yes Posted by: John Rice
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» RE: In a Word:Yes Posted by: Pickles78
In a shorter word: NO
Posted by: jonwilson on Jul 10, 2006 2:42 AM   
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"Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?"

This remains a dream of liberals. But like most of their dreams such as cars that run on granola, social acceptance of body odor, do it yourself abortion kits and legalized pot, it will never come true.

Bush won't even be impeached if the dems take COngress. Pelosi has already said that if the dems. win they will not try to impeach.

But you guys can keep dreaming. After all it is so cute to see you all get so excited thinking Bush could be prosecuted for war crimes. It is like watching a child on Christmas Eve in anticipation of all the presents to come. Only difference is your present is never coming.

» That reaks of complicity. Posted by: WhatNow?
» RE: In a shorter word: NO Posted by: HeroesAll
» RE: In a shorter word: NO Posted by: Vietnam Vet
» RE: In a shorter word: NO Posted by: jonwilson
» You reveal yourself Posted by: russianblue1
» RE: In a shorter word: NO Posted by: sidewinder
» sidewinder Posted by: cyclone
» W thinks he has a line to God... Posted by: chief of okeefe
» RE: Hitler was a Christian too Posted by: enzolima
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» Thanks, Jonwilson! Posted by: bassman
The USA and the ICC
Posted by: Wish on Jul 10, 2006 2:52 AM   
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As was stated, the ICC is situated in The Hague, The Netherlands. As part of their megalomania, a resolution was enacted by the USA, that would 'justify' an invasion of The Netherlands, in case any American was held in prison by/for the ICC. To subsequently free this person.
Because any American accused of war crimes could only be propaganda from america's enemies, of course. And would only be used against the USA. and whatever more reasoning.
That means that basically the USA declared war on my country, an sovereign nation, that has a State Lottery older than the USA...A long time ally of the USA.
So you see nothing is sacred.
Of course, my country's government was totally inadequate in the reacting to this highly aggressive move.

Shows that international community is indeed not 'ready' yet: they're threatened with the force of invasion...

» RE: The USA and the ICC Posted by: HeroesAll
» War is hell Posted by: Wish
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» The ICC's jurisdiction does not extend... Posted by: fool-on-the-hill
Who Need A Trial?
Posted by: ChristopherLL on Jul 10, 2006 3:04 AM   
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The Bush administration will not be put on trial, although in time they might be judged in some venue, but it does not matter. Whatever strength, integrity and trust we may have had internationally has been irreversibly reduced and damaged. The countries that will become leaders in this world in the future, China, India and Russia, have taken note of our use of the military to dominate, punish and destroy whoever we deem an "enemy" and the corollary that we have no diplomatic leverage or expertise.

They know they cannot confront us militarily but do not have to. They will use economics to challenge and eventually surpass this country as leading world powers. We placed an enormous amount of money, man power and pschic energy into our military/industrial complex after WWII and it seems after the fall of the Berlin wall could not adapt to a new world. Our military will be meaningless within a short period of time, I believe, for the challenge now is to either use our engergies to live as an integrated international community and protect our environments or simply begin the slow process of becoming once again barbaric and possibly extinct.

» RE: Who Need A Trial?.....in a nutshell sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
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He Should be IMPEACHED and JAILED
Posted by: thinkverybig on Jul 10, 2006 3:19 AM   
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I hope like hell this idiot is impeached and jailed for all of the things he's done wrong. This is by far the worst President in history and it's time we Americans wake up and make him liable for all of the misdeeds he has done. There are so many to list. We need to act now and get rid of this nut.

» RE: That would be too kind. Posted by: enzolima
» RE: That would be too kind. Posted by: thinkverybig
Impeach him first, then bring him to trial with his cronies.
Posted by: kgs1947 on Jul 10, 2006 3:19 AM   
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There's a grassroots movement among city/county councils to draw up petitions for impeachment of this man. I hope it becomes a monumental movement that is successful. Bush is a psychopath.

» "Knocked" your point OUT!!!! Posted by: russianblue1
» RE: Institutionalize Bill Clinton sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
anarchists
Posted by: rsaxto on Jul 10, 2006 3:46 AM   
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The Bushies are anarchists at heart for they have no use for any pesky laws that outlaw their war crimes. IMPEACH THE CRIMINAL BUSHIE ANARCHISTS!

» RE: anarchists sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
Bush Is A War Criminal
Posted by: custersbud on Jul 10, 2006 4:20 AM   
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I live for the day Bush and his acolytes are dragged before a tribunal to be held accountable for their crimes against humanity. Eventually, someone somewhere will grow the balls to do it.

Thanks to CNN for running Larry King's interview with Bush and the ever vacuous Laura ad nauseum. It really highlights what an absolute dolt he is.

sickofsleaze
Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com on Jul 10, 2006 4:30 AM   
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"If Tyranny and Opression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy"and "The means of defense against foriegn danger historically have become the instrument of tyranny at home" James Madison 4th President. From Capitol Hill Blue. Appropriate tho not the main subject under discussion today

won't happen
Posted by: mokidugway on Jul 10, 2006 5:09 AM   
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When you are in power, you get to make the rules that other people--in this case, nations--have to follow. You may use that power judiciously or recklessly, but either way you are above the law; discretion and compliance are optional.

Bush has seriously abused his power, and for that he must be impeached. That is the appropriate Constitutional remedy, and it is the right thing to do. This administration has raided the federal government like carpetbaggers, and they deserve a day of reckoning. Needless to say, impeachment would also be an important gesture of good will toward the international community.

But he will never be tried for war crimes in an international court of law.

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» Don't be so sure Posted by: apost8
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that's why they will try to arrange for no transfer of power...
Posted by: perico on Jul 10, 2006 5:25 AM   
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those who think that the american people will be allowed to elect anything but more of the same underestimate the current level of control the neocon wing of the republican party have over the outcome, and the lengths they will go to retain power. Anyway, Cheney knows he will be dead before he can be held to account. His health isn't that good... so he's trying to "shoot the moon" and as far as I can tell, has been pretty successful at it. What can derail the neocon train? Not congress, not the court, not the powerful corporations. I would say it would only be a rebellion by the military or an economic derailment orchestrated by a coalition of anti american nations. Neither would be pretty.

Thinking that the next election will bring a change of power and direction for this country is naive. Yeah, ya gotta vote, but these guys are playing for keeps and have become very good at this game. At some point they won't even need to create the illusion of free and fair elections. Hell, orchestrate another 911, maybe even a bigger event, declare marshall law, send the troops onto the streets and poof, it will finally become clear that the good ole constitution really is history.

Inhibited travel
Posted by: brunowe on Jul 10, 2006 6:33 AM   
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Although an actual trial is unlikely, Bush & Co. could find that their ability to travel outside of this country becomes sharply curtailed after they step down for fear of criminal charges being bought in foreign courts for their actions (think Pinochet).

I would point out, however, that unlike genocide and war crimes, the war of aggression crime charge hasn't been used since Nuremberg itself which makes we wonder about the international community's willingness to follow the Nuremberg precedent in this respect.

War Crimes are committed by the losers
Posted by: knocko on Jul 10, 2006 6:46 AM   
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If you have the evidence impeach him. It's a slippery slope to start charging leaders with "war crimes" . Nuremburg was not model of due process. and the Milosovic trial was a farce.

The idea that some wars are so good that crimes aren't committed during them is absurd. Most wars that last more than a couple of days include atrocities. Whether the individual soldier just freaked out, or the officers or the leaders gave a green light can be debated going back to Caesar's conquests.

Prevent war where possible. (I'm a big fan of bribes. Definitely would have been cheaper to pay Sadaam off). When not possible, maximum force-get it over with ASAP. Dont futz around with the jungle crap we did in Vietnam and the "convoys" that are sitting ducks in Iraq. Identify who supports the enemy-eliminate them, "innocents" and all. in the end that saves lives. It's howt the Romans dealt with enemies. For the vast majority of Roman citizens, there was 500 years of peace. No one said the Emperor was a "war criminal". It's a nonsensical Wilsonian concept.

PS: As for the Nazis, the Polish and other E. Europeans could have tried various Germans for murder, arson, theft etc. and probably would have executed more Nazis than the built from imagination "war crimes" tribunals.

» RE: hey, you are a special case Posted by: cold2touch
gramps
Posted by: gramps on Jul 10, 2006 6:45 AM   
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Congress violated article 1 section 8 of the United States Constitution when it authorized Bush to wage war. Only Congress has this right and Congress allowing any other branch of government to wage war is a violation of its oath of office.

The president is only allowed to use military force if we are attacked but since Pearl Harbor there has been only one attack on The United States and that was the Israeli attack on the American Navy vessel Liberty in international waters by Israel.

Shock and awe was no different than Hitler's attack on Poland or the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. It was an unprovoked assault on an unprepared population. This was not only an attack on The Nuremberg Court and The United Nations Charter, but was an attack on The Constitution of The United States.

» RE: Bravo gramps! Posted by: Ghoulman
» RE: Bravo gramps! sickofsleaze Posted by: ladybug1@carrollsweb.com
Nation of Laws?
Posted by: symcokid on Jul 10, 2006 6:46 AM   
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What exactly did the Hussein counterpart mean when he said, "we are a Nation of Laws", does anybody know? I don't imagine most people will remember before this illegal Iraq invasion that infamous one liner by Dubya, "we will put the oil in trust for the people of Iraq". I guess it ties in with his other diddie, "we will liberate the Iraqi people", which can only translate into, "what's our oil doing under Iraq's sand"? Or, we will free them of their oil, period!

We are a Nation of Laws alright and Free, free to circumvent any that we choose, even International Law. Laws and Rules of War only apply to other countries. We've gotten away with atrocities for so long, why would Americans react with amazed surprise at pre-emptive attacks or ignoring KYOTO consensus?

The ONLY way they will be prosecuted for war crimes...
Posted by: xbj on Jul 10, 2006 6:54 AM   
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The ONLY way they will be prosecuted for war crimes is the same way the first Nazis were prosecuted; by the rest of the world uniting against them, pounding their thousand-year Reich into rubble, and hauling the ones that survived out of the wreckage. Which in this case will be from underground bunkers far below the glowing black cinder that once was Amerika.

Which is exactly how this crew will be prosecuted, and when. I don't care HOW big and powerful the US of Amerika is, it cannot stand against the combined weapons and forces of the entire rest of the world, and that is what this country will be facing the second they nuke Iran due to the reprehensible and almost unbelievably fascist policies of this war profiteering and idiotically suicidal Adminstration and cabal.

As far as justice is concerned, no telling who will be able to cheat the sword by committing suicide first and who won't. The rest who survive will most assuredly be beheaded, including Scalia, on live television, to a roar that will be heard around the entire planet to the gates of Hell itself.

TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER
Posted by: sirossisofliver on Jul 10, 2006 7:00 AM   
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As you all may be aware, there has been an influx of Morlocks to our site, of late.

With every new Alternet Blog discussion, watch out for the following Neo-Con WingNut Infiltrators:

knocko
rightwing1
NC3
RWcowboy
Phenix
Supercrisp
zvirgil2
resistance6
conservasaurus
butthead
jonwilson

PLEASE refrain from responding to their agenda-driven, NeoCon Drivel in order to prevent them from high-jacking the threads.

IGNORING THESE ACEREBRAL IDIOTS ALLOWS US TO CARRY ON WITH OUR REASONED DISCUSSIONS.

» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle
» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle
» I made the list! NICE Posted by: jonwilson
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» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: TROLL ALERT; IGNORE AND CONQUER Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: A spincter says what? Posted by: enzolima
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www.trolls.com
Posted by: cold2touch on Jul 10, 2006 8:08 AM   
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is hiring bigtime.
As many are aware, the corporate media/neocon complex is freaked out by the growing power of blogosphere and are trying to smear and subjugate internet as a whole.
They fear that their hearts+minds ownership of American psyche is slipping and are resorting to all manners of swiftboating tactics to restore it.
Does it not seem strange that 20 trolls would hit a single progressive post like this one all at once?
When do I ever peruse reactionary e-zines? I pretty much know their content of mindless venom and cannot hope to learn anything new, so I just don't waste my time there.

What Alternet and its likes need is the IGNORE BUTTON, so that the poster dispappears from the user's view until removed from ignore list.
This is what yahoo trading boards have due of heavy troll infestation designed to choke traffic and spook traders into moves of mass panic exploited by hedge funds.

Until that time, exercise your own control, don't bother reading posts by known trolls and getting needlessly riled and don't answer, they get paid by response